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Post by Duchess of the Snow on Apr 12, 2013 21:20:13 GMT 10
So! We will soon be starting in the land of Flight Rising and I shall have two imperial scrolls. For the past couple of days now I have been trying to figure out the best way to use these...Anyone got ideas?
I was considering either buying up some cheap dragons from the marketplace and turning those into imperials OR turning one of my starters into an imperial and breeding that with my other starter to get the chance of either imperials or that breed in my first clutch of eggs OOR breeding my two starters and turning one of their young into an imperial then buying up a random other dragon or finding one and turning that into my other imperial.
Thoughts? Ideas? So many possible ways of doing it...but Im looking for the one that gives me more imperials.
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Post by Gaia on Apr 12, 2013 21:56:30 GMT 10
Honestly Snow, I think you best bet is to give me some of your imperials! yeah.. definitely the way to go..!!
Okay, so it's not true! xD Im just trying to get myself some imperials too! Im not sure how rare the chances are of getting an imperial when you breed an imperial with a more common breed. But I reckon there are a lot of people with the same problem, so one way to do it is first making a clutch of eggs of your startes as their inital breed, after that convert them to imperial. Breed them, trade at least one of your babies for other imperial babies of other people. That way you keep the same amount of imperials but you get more genetic variety (that helps to avoid inbreeding)
If chances aren't too bad, say 25% you can always try changing only one of your starter breeds, and wait until you find an orphaned egg and turn that into an imperial too! Same reason as before, to avoid inbreeding, cause the orphaned egg has no parents.
This isnt a real thought-through strategy tho. There's no need for me to think of one since I wont be having imperials to begin with..
I hope Im making sense to you. I kind of wrote this in a hurry while gulping yp my lunch, cause I gotta run! Ill see what you think of it when I get back tonight! o/
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 12, 2013 22:46:32 GMT 10
I very much prefer the female Imperials to the males, so my strategy may actually be to just find some pretty females, turn them into my Imps, and then just find another user for each of the ladies with a male Imperial who'd want to partner up and breed.
Yeah, it makes breeding less convient, because I have to hope the other user(s) stay active, and they'll get half the hatchlings, but I'm not so into Imperials that it would really bother me.
So hey, if any of you will have male Imperials in need of a female partner, get in touch. xD
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Post by Duchess of the Snow on Apr 13, 2013 7:25:49 GMT 10
That's a GREAT idea Little Blue, cause it would also help with the problem of the inbreeding
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Post by warpwind on Apr 14, 2013 0:21:50 GMT 10
I think that sounds a little awkward to me as you'll have to keep trading dragons back and forth to breed them.
Anyway it'll be interesting to see if there is a glut of imperial hatchlings early on. Although I suspect most users will be like me and only use one scroll immediately then save the second for an abandoned egg.
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 14, 2013 0:24:10 GMT 10
Well, considering breeding with others will be a normal part of the game, maybe it's automated in some way, like both users get a nest out of it? I don't know, maybe a Beta guest will turn up and clarify how breeding with other users works.
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Post by warpwind on Apr 14, 2013 0:34:16 GMT 10
Oh, I see. I was under the impression that breeding could only occur between dragons you owned.
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 14, 2013 0:47:00 GMT 10
Nah, that would be far too risky. People would want to breed with other users dragons regardless, because they may see someone has a very pretty one, or such. Trading mates back and forth, however, would only lead to players getting scammed out of their dragons.
It's safer to set up a way for users to breed together and this is supported because I saw many dragons with parents who belonged to two different users. So, I think, either one person gets the nest and is expected to trade a baby or two, or maybe both users get a nest. Now that I think about it, the latter sounds like the best solution. But I don't know the exact workings yet.
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Post by Beta guest on Apr 14, 2013 1:07:51 GMT 10
Ask and ye shall receive  Warpmind is right, you can only breed dragons you own. To breed your dragon with someone else's, you'd have to give it to them (or them to you) and trust that it would be returned. Which is not something I'd suggest with anyone you aren't good friends with, because the admin will not be able to make them return it. The dragons you see who have parents with different users are likely dragons that got traded after that offspring was already born. Unless you mean a wildclaw, which was a group breeding project within the closed beta. |
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 14, 2013 1:16:22 GMT 10
Wow, really? I have to say, I'm kind of shocked there's no system in place for that... Breeding with other users seems like it'd be something in demand and very useful, because, I really don't want to trade my actual dragons just for breedings.
I guess I take back what I said about my females, I'll just have to buy a male of my own after others start putting offspring up for sale.
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Post by jcstitches on Apr 14, 2013 1:57:36 GMT 10
Since I've never heard of a game like that, it's not shocking to me  But I believe the point is to encourage the sale of dragons in the Auction House rather than swapping mates for breeding purposes. It's a source of income for players, it keeps fresh money going into FR's little economy, and spreads genetic diversity as both children and even parents are sold to other players. Trading is possible, but it will be a direct "this for this." Trading something for payment or returning in the future would be too difficult to manage, and is done at your own risk only. |
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 14, 2013 2:07:31 GMT 10
Really? I've seen a few that have breeding, and the one I currently play on most of the time has inter-user breeding as a staple, and still get plenty of sales on my pets as well. Though, on that site, sales aren't usually high because males don't have a cooldown, and for females it's only 3 days, so breeding is extremely rapid and even new breeds are quickly made common. It very much shows why FR should stick to the cooldowns it has chosen.
I do understand the point of encouraging auction house use, but I've seen that both can work together. It brings in color and gene diversity, maybe element diversity. Of course, buying at the auction house does the same thing.
Oh well. I don't want to trade my dragons for breeding, it's too risky for me. I guess I'll just stick to breeding my own dragons. If it's not something to admins intend to put in, it's disappointing for me, but not something big enough to make me leave.
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Post by Gaia on Apr 14, 2013 4:02:34 GMT 10
It's true that it's risky to trade you parent imperials. But if you trade the babies for other imperial babies, you should gain the same or even better genetic variety, than if you get babies of which one of your own dragons is the parent. So I don't think it is gonna pose much of a problem, especially cause there are a lot of people with the same problem. I think trading your imperial babies for other imperial babies is your best bet.  Oh and if you dont wanna convert both your starter dragons into imperials, you might wanna try obtain a wildclaw or one of the other dragons. I believe snappers, spirals, pearlcatchers and ridgebacks are also more rare than the starter dragons, so you if you breed lets say a pearlcatcher with an imperial, you'd have even chances or at least bigger chances of getting imperial babies. And you wont be needing both your imperial scrolls for it |
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Post by Paradoxical Blue on Apr 14, 2013 4:10:04 GMT 10
Well my plan was to make all female Imps, therefore, now I have to either make one male and leave myself with one less pretty female, or buy/trade for a male outside of my clan. It would have been nicer if I could just partner up with someone else without having to risk my dragons.
And yes, I already understand that other species will be rare and more valuable and how they'll be less likely to have those rare babies with a different breed. I have my plans to get those breeds through trade or breed changing.
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Post by Duchess of the Snow on Apr 14, 2013 8:29:37 GMT 10
Does anyone here know the...hierarchy or rareness? are the chances of getting certain breeds within breeding?
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